André Ramos-Woodard, Efrem, and I had a phenomenal conversation. We talked about André‘s love for their peers, and how their work is informed by anime and gaming. This was recorded shortly after Lil Nas X dropped Industry Baby, so I insisted we discuss that for a while, and we also chatted about love-hating Jeff Koons. Tons more to find in the full episode and footnotes!

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